Episode 52 Feedback

[jonwings]

Wow, I can't believe I am one the starting this thread, somebody needs to get on the ball around here.

A few random things some of which pertain to previous episodes I never got around to posting about,

I think the real reason Derek didn't make the show is that it is October and podcasting isn't cool anymore. I fully expect him to be back sometime in November when podcasting becomes cool again.

Forgetting Sarah Marshall is hilarious. Even though I keep hearing it is a stinker, I still want to see The Happening.

Glad to hear everyone is still enjoying the Tiddy Bear.

for anyone who thinks Captain America is lame (not Eric the other Captain America) do yourself a favor and pick up The Ultimates or The Ultimates II. The Captain America there is pretty bad ass, and more than likely that is closer to the version of the character they are going to make into the movie.

I agree that Land of the Dead was weak. I haven't seen Diary of the Dead yet. I'll catch when it shows up at the library or On Demand. If you are looking for good zombie stuff, pick up "The Rising" and "City of Dead" by Brian Keane. Both are pretty good and really quick reads. Of course, if you are a zombie fan and are not picking up The Walking Dead comic you are really missing out.

There is at least one Choose your own adventure type DVD out there. It was called Scrourge of Souls or something like that. I picked it up a couple of years ago. It is a CGI style animated D & D type story. Everytime the character have to make a decision, it stops and you make the choice. I'd have to look, but I might still have a couple demo discs that gives you like 15 - 20 minutes of story. If I can find one, I'd be more than happy to pass it along if you wanted to give it a try.

If I think of something else, I'll post it later.

[webbstre]

I hate zombie movies. ALL zombie movies. The only zombies that are cool are in Terry Pratchett's Discworld books. Zombies suck rotten penis.

[webbstre]

Oh yeah, feedback. Thanks for the marriage congrats guys. Next time I will have to explain to Eric while it is a real marriage and explain the secret links between Christianity and the Resident Evil storyline.

There were a few times during the episode that I nearly exploded from trying to hold in the laughter in embarrassing public places. Hopefully we can work something out so I can be on the show some during Derek's absence. How long will Derek be "on hiatus" anyways?

[webbstre]

I can't help it, I have a thing against horror movies and even suspense movies. Why create more nightmares when there are enough real ones out there?

[webbstre]

A- Horror are made to make you afraid.
B- Most of your examples are not horror movies, and therefore are not made with the intent of making you scared.
C- As most of your examples are not horror movies, they are irrelevant.

Sorry, your analysis doesn't hold up on this one. Even Dracula (as portrayed in the book at least) wasn't about horror, it was one step short of a mystery adventure. Name me one Horror flick that isn't just a combination of pushing your grossness factor and creepy-crawly-spook factor with a couple sexual of sexual references thrown in. No, actually, don't, because I won't agree with whatever arguments you throw out there to try to defend the movie of your choice.

As for your conclusion and your references to non-horror movies, those real life nightmares that need dealt with are just that, things that need dealt with. No one (correction, no healthy person) likes to be victimized in real life, no matter what the situation, and watching a movie just so you can feel like a victim or relate to a victim is entirely unhealthy unless it has an ending that somehow helps you get past a trauma of your own. Otherwise, it is just sick. At least in the games you get to blown the crap out of the zombies, in the movies you sit there and take it.



Arguing with Derek is fun... we need more viewers to provide sideline commentary. And I want to argue with Captain America sometime. On the forums.



Oh, jumping off topic, Chad and I may be on Japanese TV next week.

[jonwings]

So Chase only likes movies that are full of sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows......

There is nothing wrong with a good scary movie. These days I am less about the crazy gore type horror movies and more toward the crazy suspense, built the "horror" up in your mind. I think movies like the Mist and even The Ring are good examples of this. These are really scary movies and are not really very gory at all.

I remember staying up late on night andd stumbled on the movie "Failsafe" from 1964. I do not if it was the plot, the lack of a soundtrack, or just the overall tension inthe movie, but it freaked me out.

[jonwings]

I do like most Stephen King movies and those TV mini series they made. I haven't read too muich of his books but the few I have I have liked. I have the 1st Dark Tower book but I still haven't started it yet. I even picked up the first trade of the Dark Tower comic from the library and didn't read that. One of these days, I'll pick up the Stand and read that.

I'm definitely more of a drama and suspense type horror movie person. That is type I like the two Dawn of the Dead movies. In the first one, after that scene in the apartment building there really isn't much gore. Its the people trying to stay alive in the mall which the crazy, bleak situation that makes it interesting. The remake had the same thing going for it, but of course they had to up the gore. And, for me the best part of the New Dawn of the Dead DVD is that 30 - 40 extra of with Dr Franklin from Babylon 5 as the the news anchor reporting on all the crap going down. And you get Captain Sheridan as the President! I love that whole genre of fake news/documentary on crazy/unrealistic events. Sometimes that is the scariest stuff because it is presented as real.

[Deli Hand Grenade]

Hmmm ... I really wish that we could swing a Derek and Chase debate on this topic on the show because I think it would be interesting. And I really want to hear Chase's reasoning "live" rather than written because I don't really understand his points.

All I can gather is that he doesn't like horror movies because they scare people ... and think the people that watch / make them are sick for doing so.

I'm a huge horror movie nut ... maybe even more so than Derek. The first movie I remember watching as a child other than Disney's Robin Hood was Return of the Living Dead and that movie was pretty fucked up. I think that is where I get my love of Horror movies from.

I love all kinds of horror movies. The Gory ones, The Suspenseful ones, the Spooky ones, the creepy/disturbing ones, slasher flicks, and even bad for the sake of bad. I'll watch pretty much anything labeled as horror.

And I know Derek can't relate because Katherine hates horror movies too ... but scary movies always lead to some grade A action for me.

[webbstre]

Wow, this conversation continued without me :-P

I don't just watch "sunshine and rainbows" or whatever. The movies I watch, if there is some sort of fear factor or gore-factor (just to lump that in there) it isn't there as the main point of the movie. More importantly, it doesn't victimize who is watching it. I am fine with comedy movies that make me feel like the butt of the joke (Family Guy is a good example... you are the butt of the joke because you can't foretell a lot of the crazy crap in advance, or so I learned in Comedy Analysis in college), but I won't watch any sort of horror or suspense movie that is made to make the viewer feel somewhat like they are being victimized.

Hopefully my English is good enough today for that to make sense... basically, you could say there is enough gore and rape and other horrible things for real in real life, so inventing new horrors "as entertainment", even if it IS just in movies, just seems rather sick to me. If you have to make some terrible thing and put it in a movie, there is no reason to make it realistically graphic, and the ending should have some kind of resolution that doesn't leave you jumping at shadows the following night.

So yes, the monsters and freak in my movies always get dealt with and there is a happy ending. I avoid anything that screws with the mind in a way that makes a person wonder if they were slipped drugs.

[webbstre]

Just a note, my wife likes horror stuff... for some reason she loves the Final Destination series... opposites attract?

[jonwings]

I agree with the gore for the sake of gore stuff. I generally do not think it is necessary.

I do like cheezy bad horror movies. One of my favorite movies is Psycho Cop Returns: Psycho Cop II, which is a really bad and cheezy horror movie, but that is what makes it fun to watch. I aslo think tone has a lot to do with it too. If the movie isn't taking it self to seriously, I can forgive a lot of stuff. The Evil Dead movies are like that. I forgive a lot of the gorey stuff because it is cheezy fun, which makes the movies great.

The original Final Destination movie was awesome. Also, the DVD had this cool feature on the test screening and how that worked and changed. Tne 2nd one the turned into gore fest and it was pretty bad. The third one was better than the 2nd but no where near as good as the 1st.

[Rev. Thim]

Oct 22, 2008 10:47:17 GMT -5 jonwings said:

Wow, I can't believe I am one the starting this thread, somebody needs to get on the ball around here.

...Glad to hear everyone is still enjoying the Tiddy Bear.

I started the last one, its not with my slack to start two in a row.

I looked up the tiddy bear, and theres TWO versions of the commercial...and I'm STILL not sure it is serious. i know you called the # on the show....but still.

Oct 23, 2008 0:27:04 GMT -5 @headshotderek said:

OK. I am 100% sure that Chase has NO IDEA the mega deep pooey doo he just got himself in with this group.

This is not the place to hate zombies friend-o, consider it fair warning.

well said Derek...but when it comes down to it "theres 2 kinds of people..those with, and those without zombie plans". on the day the zombies come looking for brains, and find the quality of the skull meat in japan, he'll know the stink of the very bottom of the pit he's in.
... japan will have a REALLY hard time dealing with them when theres no planes flying and your stuck on a country of islands that are densely filled with zombies , and no hicks with guns to defend the few survivors! ...ESPECIALLY if the robots rebel at the same time...(wow..that would be the best survival movie EVAR! ......*spoiler* , the plot twist involves cyborg-zombies.)

....... but Chase is right about atleast one thing. Terry Pratchett is awesome.

oh... another fine show, I wonder if Chad has figured out his most hated character yet. When i come up with my next questions I'll try to get them up sooner so that more planning can be put into response.

Chase ( "substitiute derek") , should be on the the next show, this one proved his Signature to be true.

Have a good one,
Thim.